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Building a Business That Supports Your Life - Looks Like Work, Season 3, Ep 19

What if your business didn’t just pay the bills—but gave you your time back, too?

In this energizing and honest episode, Jasz Joseph, founder of Jasz Rae Digital and HubSpot CRM consultant, shares how she ditched billable hours (and burnout) to create a life of genuine freedom. After tracking her time down to 0.25 of an hour—and realizing she was mentally invoicing her laundry—Jasz quit her job and built a business that works while she sips coffee in Mexico City.

We talk about slow seasons, quiet wins, and the “business should be boring” mantra that changed everything. Jasz opens up about the emotional weight of tying your identity to your business, and how asking “why not?” has become her best tool for battling people-pleasing and taking brave steps forward.

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From Family Business to Serial Founder - Looks Like Work, Season 3, Ep 18

What do you get when you mix a paper-shredding real estate intern, a pandemic, a newborn, and a sustainable maternity activewear brand? If you’re Ellen Hockley: a wildly resilient serial entrepreneur with the receipts (and emotional battle scars) to prove it.

In this candid conversation, Ellen shares her journey from growing up inside a family business to building (and closing) multiple ventures of her own—including one that launched the same week her son was born. We talk about the heartbreak and healing of business closures, the difference between service and product businesses, and the boundaries she’s now committed to protecting.

If you’ve ever wondered how to move forward after a venture ends—or if you’re currently juggling multiple hats and considering a reset—this one’s for you.

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Tech Cycles, Masculine BS, Career Choices - Looks Like Work, Season 3, Ep 17

You know those conversations that feel like a download and a pep talk and a hug from someone who’s seen some things?

That’s this episode.

Hannit Cohen—VP of R&D at Easy and my former co-founder at Emerj—joins me for a no-nonsense, deeply personal conversation about building a long, sustainable, values-aligned career in tech. And doing it without buying into all the masculine BS that still runs through too many rooms.

She’s been coding since the ‘90s, led teams, stepped back to raise three kids, and came back stronger—this time with better boundaries, sharper instincts, and zero tolerance for tech bro theatrics.

This isn’t a story of “having it all.” It’s about choosing what matters, when it matters, and being honest enough to keep asking the question.

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The Body as Home: Movement, Language, and Questions - Looks Like Work, Season 3, Ep 16

Some transformations don’t begin with a decision. They begin with a diagnosis. Or a crisis. Or a sentence you don’t yet have the words to process.

This episode is about what happens after that moment—when the world as you know it changes, and your body becomes the only reliable place to land.

Liza Futerman is a somatic educator, writer, and artist whose journey spans countries, disciplines, and modes of knowing. She grew up between Soviet Russia and Israel, lived and studied in Oxford and Toronto, and spent years mastering the language of the mind—until her mother’s early-onset Alzheimer’s diagnosis called her back to the body.

What followed was not just a personal reckoning, but a full-on reorientation: to grief, to movement, to mixed-abilities dance, to leadership as a question rather than a role.

This conversation is soft, but not small. It’s an exploration of what it means to come home to yourself—especially when everything you once knew about control, safety, and certainty has unraveled.

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Fitting Out - Reclaiming Unprofessionalism - Looks Like Work, Season 3, Ep 15

Somewhere along the way, “professionalism” got warped into a performance.
A performance that tells us: Keep it buttoned up. Keep it neutral. Don’t bring your whole self—just the polished parts.

But what if the most powerful thing you could do at work wasn’t to conform… but to unmask?

In this episode, I sit down with Myriam Hadnes—facilitator, podcaster, and founder of Workshops Work—to explore what happens when we stop trying to fit in, and instead learn how to fit out.

Myriam grew up with one foot in Germany and the other in Israel, straddling cultural norms and expectations from day one. She talks about how being a sensitive kid—always scanning the room, feeling what wasn’t said—led her into the work of facilitation. Not because she planned it, but because life kept nudging her toward the role of connector.

What began as survival became service. And now, she’s making space for others to do the same—with fewer masks, fewer shoulds, and a whole lot more curiosity.

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Leadership, Intuition, and Learning to Say No - Looks Like Work, Season 3, Ep 12

What if leadership didn’t require force?
What if intuition counted as data?
What if saying no didn’t mean you were flaking out—but finally listening in?

This episode is for anyone who's spent years outsourcing their knowing to deadlines, deliverables, or dusty definitions of “success.”
It’s for the spreadsheet skeptics. The ex-consultants turned barefoot thinkers. The women who’ve been told softness doesn’t scale.

Tal Shavit is a leadership and intuition expert, and in this conversation, she invites us into a more whole, integrated way of leading—one that includes the spiritual, the feminine, the playful, and the wildly unproductive moments that make the real breakthroughs possible.

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The Equality Myth - Looks Like Work, Season 3, Ep 14

Let’s start here: feminism is not a phase.
It’s not a side hustle or a “women’s issue.”
It’s a vigilance practice. And for Dr. Orit Kamir, it’s been a life’s work.

In this episode, I sit down with Dr. Kamir—feminist scholar, human rights researcher, and the woman behind Israel’s sexual harassment prevention law—to unpack the stories we’re told about equality… and the ones we tell ourselves to stay comfortable.

Orit grew up believing in the “equality myth”—the idea that things were already fine, that gender oppression was a thing of the past, or at least of other cultures. Spoiler: it wasn’t. And once she saw it clearly, there was no going back.

Together we talk about how patriarchy survives not through brute force, but through story. Through sanitized nostalgia, weaponized innocence, and the seductive lie that “we’ve already solved that.”

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Strong Opinions, Open Hearts - Looks Like Work, Season 3, Ep 13

Motherhood didn’t soften Iona Holloway’s edges. It sharpened them.

It made her less patient with bullshit, more precise with her time, and wildly committed to telling the truth — the full, brave, unfiltered truth.

In this episode, I talk with Iona—founder of Brave Thing, keynote speaker, and author of Ghost—about what happens when your voice gets louder and clearer… not because you planned it, but because life demanded it.

We explore the crossroads where strength and vulnerability meet — and what it means to lead from that place, especially when you’re being stretched by new identities (like “mom”) and old habits (like shrinking yourself to be palatable).

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Finding Your Zone of Genius and What's Right for You- Looks Like Work, Season 3, Ep 10

There’s a version of work that doesn’t drain you.
Where flow isn’t a myth, and effort doesn’t always mean exhaustion.
Where you look up from your laptop and realize you’ve been happy—not just productive.

That’s what happens in your zone of genius.

In this episode, I sit down with Tali Slonim—former corporate HR exec turned coach, author, and founder of The Stretcher—to talk about how she found her way from hustle to harmony. Not because she had a five-year plan. But because life threw her some curveballs—and she had the courage to ask better questions in response.

We talk about what happens when your resume says “success,” but your body says “not this.”
And how writing, honesty, and radical self-inquiry helped her reclaim a career (and life) that fit.

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Reclaiming Identity, Dismantling Ableism, and Showing Up Whole - Looks Like Work, Season 3, Ep 11

What if the parts of you the world taught you to hide… were the key to your power?

In this episode, I talk with Tiffany Yu—founder of Diversability and author of The Anti-Ableist Manifesto—about what it means to live, lead, and love in a world not designed with all bodies (or minds) in mind.

Tiffany doesn’t just talk about disability—she reclaims it. As identity. As culture. As a lens through which to see the world and remake it with more care, nuance, and agency.

We talk about what it means to move from shame to ownership. From the exhausting labor of disclosure to the freedom of naming. From “being inspiring” to being seen as fully human—even (especially) in our complexities.

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Curiosity, Reality, and the Stories We Don't Want to See- Looks Like Work, Season 3, Ep 9

Some people make art to entertain.
Others make it to agitate.
Tal Barda makes it to reveal what we’d rather not see.

In this episode, I sit down with Tal—award-winning filmmaker and relentless truth-seeker—to talk about what it means to document the unseen. From Gaza to Israeli prisons, from ultra-Orthodox communities to immigrant families clinging to two cultures at once, Tal uses her camera like a scalpel: cutting through numbness, denial, and the illusion of neat narratives.

We talk about what it’s like to grow up between countries, between languages, between versions of belonging. And how that outsider-ness can become its own kind of compass.

This episode is about art, yes—but also about responsibility. About choosing to look, when looking is the hardest thing. And about the cost of staying curious when the world wants you to look away.

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Resilience Without Questions Can Turn on Your Values- Looks Like Work, Season 3, Ep 8

We love resilience. We put it on mugs, on resumes, on startup pitch decks. We reward people for pushing through, staying strong, showing up no matter what.

But here’s the thing no one tells you about resilience:
If you don’t pair it with questions, it can turn on you.

In this solo episode, I (Chedva Ludmir, fka Kleinhandler) take you behind the scenes of my own entrepreneurial journey. Seventeen years of building—from translator to agency founder to tech startup CEO to… this moment. Right here. In the messy, magic middle of Consider.

And I talk honestly about the slippery slope between “I’m doing great!” and “I’ve completely lost myself in the grind and don’t even know what day it is.”

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More Values, Less Effort- Looks Like Work, Season 3, Ep 7

What if life didn’t have to be a constant uphill climb?

What if being a great mom, a devoted partner, an ambitious entrepreneur, and a full-ass human didn’t require contortionist-level scheduling and a martyr complex?

What if the magic wasn’t in doing more—but in getting honest about what actually matters?

This week, I talk with Meirav Rosenberg—founder of Paz Interactive, author-in-progress, and self-described recovering over-functioner—about the quiet revolution that begins when we finally stop bullshitting ourselves.

We get into the emotional calculus of parenting, partnering, launching, and loving… and how values—not hustle—can be the thing that aligns it all.

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Work That's Worth It - Looks Like Work, Season 3, Ep 5

Let’s talk about the 90,000 hours.

That’s the average time you’ll spend working in your lifetime.
Give or take a few thousand coffee breaks, existential crises, and Slack threads that definitely didn’t need to be meetings.

In this episode, Georgi Enthoven joins me to ask a deceptively spicy question:
👉 “What is worth your 90,000 hours?”

Georgi is the founder of Work That’s Worth It, a project and philosophy that challenges the idea that meaningful work and financial stability are mutually exclusive. If you’ve ever thought “I want to make a difference and pay my bills,” she’s here to remind you: that’s not naïve—that’s strategic.

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Prioritizing Joy in the Entrepreneurial Journey- Looks Like Work, Season 3, Ep 6

There’s a certain flavor of burnout that hits right after you’ve “made it.”

The investors said yes. The acquisition papers are signed. You’ve got the title, the exit, the receipts. And then… you wake up and realize: you haven’t felt actual joy in weeks. Maybe longer.

In this episode, I talk to Lee Rotenberg — serial founder, product nerd, and now joy-seeker — about the moment she realized she was done performing success and ready to start living it.

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Reclaiming Sacred Texts - Looks Like Work, Season 3, Ep 4

Some doors slam shut so early, you don’t even know you’re locked out.
Other times, you’re pushed through them—and find your way back through the window.

In this powerful conversation with Talmud scholar and activist Chaya Gilboa, we talk about what it means to reclaim tradition. Not as a rebellion, but as a birthright.

Chaya grew up ultra-Orthodox in Jerusalem, in a world where women didn’t study sacred texts. She’s now a teacher, a mother, and a woman who can name exactly what lit up in her body when she did start learning Talmud—and what went silent for years before that.

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Creating Safe Places - Looks Like Work, Season 3, Ep 3

What if the rules weren’t made for you—but you showed up anyway?

Not just showed up, but rewrote the script, turned on the lights, lowered the sound, and left the door open?

That’s what Or Alterman-Barnea did. After her son was diagnosed with autism, she realized that most cultural spaces weren’t built for neurodivergent kids—or their families. So she made one that was.

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The Questions We Don’t Dare to Ask- Looks Like Work, Season 3, Ep 1

Let’s be honest: “What do you do?” has never really cut it.

Not when your dream job starts to feel like a straitjacket.
Not when the world is on fire and you’re trying to scale a mountain and get your kid to therapy and make a salad that doesn’t taste like resignation.

In this solo season opener, I (hi, it’s me, Chedva) ask three questions that don’t always get polite dinner party airtime:

  • What do you do when your dream no longer fits?

  • How do you reclaim a system built to suppress you?

  • What happens when you stop optimizing and start asking?

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Curiosity → Introspection → Transformation Curiosity → Introspection → Transformation

Curiosity → Introspection → Transformation Curiosity → Introspection → Transformation