There’s another way - Looks Like Work, Season 1, Ep 19

A photo of Anne Ditmeyer with the overlay text: There's another way - career journeys & map-making. Anne Ditmeyer, Creative Coach and Workshop Facilitator. Looks Like Work with Chedva (Vivi) Ludmir Kleinhandler. Season 1, Episode 19

What if your next big idea came from… a banana map?
In this heart-expanding, insight-rich episode, I’m joined by Anne Ditmeyer—creative coach, workshop facilitator, and founder of Mapping Your Path. We dive into the power of drawing your way through discomfort, how slowness can be strategic, and why “the goo phase” might just be your growth phase.

Anne shares how French bureaucracy helped her reclaim boundaries and creativity, how banana metaphors unlocked new workshops, and how doodling became a portal to clarity. It’s a conversation about pacing, presence, and permission to find your own way—even when the path is murky.

What We Talk About:

  • Reimagining maps as tools for inner exploration, not just travel

  • Anne’s transition from travel blogging to intuitive business-building

  • Why “slow” is not lazy—and often more effective

  • The goo phase: what to do when you’re not quite a caterpillar, not yet a butterfly

  • Creating accountability without pressure through community

  • Using buffers, books, bananas, and blog posts as creative tools

  • The power of maintenance mode (yes, even in business!)

  • How to zoom in to feel, and zoom out to understand

  • Anne’s Powerful Question:

    “What if there’s another way?”
    This deceptively simple question can open doors—to new strategies, softer seasons, and more expansive creativity.

  • Key Lessons:

    • Slow is strategic: Momentum is not the only metric

    • Joy is a tool: Let it lead you into unexpected creative terrain

    • Maintenance mode is magic: You don’t always need to build, grow, scale

    • The goo phase is sacred: Liminal space is fertile space

    • Community matters: You can go far and still go slow—together

    • Play is a strategy: Doodles, bananas, metaphors—it all counts

 

“Sometimes your map is detailed. Sometimes it’s abstract. That’s life.”

 

Listen to this episode on Spotify | Apple | Wherever you get your podcasts

Resources & Mentions:

  1. Visit Anne’s website

  2. Read Anne’s blog Prêt à Voyager

  3. Follow Anne on Instagram @pretavoyager

  4. Book recommendations from this season of LLW

  5. Catch up on previous seasons of Looks Like Work wherever you get your podcasts: Spotify | Apple | Podbean

  6. Subscribe to the newsletter: chedva.substack.com

  7. Check out The Curiosity Lab and CuriosityGPT

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