Starting from Scratch - Looks Like Work, Season 1, Ep 13

A photp of Osnat Benari with the overlay text: Starting from Scratch. Osnat Benari, Co-founder and CPO, DragonsCanFly Author of Starting from Scratch. Looks Like Work with Chedva (Vivi) Ludmir Kleinhandler. Season 1, Episode 13

What does it really mean to start from scratch—not once, but again and again? In this candid and thought-provoking conversation, Osnat Benari—co-founder of Dragons Can Fly and author of the upcoming Starting from Scratch—joins Chedva to unpack the art and grit of reinvention.

Together, they explore Osnat’s nonlinear path from corporate product leadership to entrepreneurship in Web3, and how each pivot, layoff, or spark of curiosity became a chance to build something new. Osnat doesn’t just talk about starting over—she’s lived it, documented it, and built a six-step methodology to help others do it too.

This episode is packed with wisdom on resilience, role models, imposter syndrome, and the quiet power of choosing your next move intentionally.

Key Topics:

  • Writing Starting from Scratch while living it in real time

  • Moving through tech, product, and startups without a straight line

  • Reinvention as a practiced skill—not a one-time event

  • Building a personal “board of directors” for your next chapter

  • Decoding imposter syndrome and the power of seeing it as a spiral

  • Exploring Web3 with curiosity (and no panic)

  • Launching Agatha—an NFT project that honors evolution and experience

  • Starting with sparks, not just survival

  • Knowing when to sit with discomfort—and when to leap

  • Osnat’s Powerful Question:

    “Is this a spark or just a bad day?”
    A powerful reframe for career decision-making that helps you distinguish between the need for reinvention and the discomfort of growth.

  • Key Lessons:

    • Reinvention is cyclical—and you don’t need to get it perfect to begin

    • A learning mindset opens doors and builds resilience

    • Your “personal board of directors” should support and challenge you

    • Thoughtful outreach creates connection and community

    • Naming your past roles and “packing your baggage” creates clarity

    • Your identity doesn’t reset with every new job—but it can evolve

    • Curiosity-driven pivots feel different than panic-fueled ones

    • You don’t have to be your role model yet—you can become her

 

“Sometimes your role model takes two years to become. That’s okay.”

 

Listen to this episode on Spotify | Apple | Wherever you get your podcasts

Resources & Mentions:

  1. DragonsCanFly 

  2. Starting from Scratch

  3. Follow Osnat on LinkedIn

  4. From Fraud to Freedom by Phyllis Njoroge

  5. Book recommendations from this season of LLW

  6. Catch up on previous seasons of Looks Like Work wherever you get your podcasts: Spotify | Apple | Podbean

  7. Subscribe to the newsletter: chedva.substack.com

  8. Check out The Curiosity Lab and CuriosityGPT

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